Bill Maher and Megyn Kelly invoked Adolf Hitler and other dictators as they bickered about whether Donald Trump was a threat to democracy.
The pair were discussing Russiaâs invasion of Ukraine on Maherâs show when it went off the rails with four other countries plus Nazi Germany being dragged in.
Maher was the first to prove Godwinâs Law when he began comparing the present geopolitical situation to the 1930s Axis vs Allies.
âWe thought when the Ukraine War started, Putin would be isolated. Heâs not isolated,â Maher began.
âHe had the BRICS nations â thatâs Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and now four or five other countries â itâs about half the worldâs population, around 35 per cent of the GDP.
Bill Maher compared the 1930s pre-World War II Axis powers to Russia, China, and their âdictatorâ allies in the present, and warned the US under Donald Trump may choose the wrong side
âThese are the dictator countries. Thereâs a very World War II feeling here, when the dictator countries are getting together.
âIn World War II, what did Hitler and the Japanese have in common? Nothing! Except they saw the world one way â fascism.â
Brazil was a military dictatorship in 1964 to 1985, then returned to democracy until the presidency of far-right president Jair Bolsonaro.
He was defeated by Luiz InĂĄcio Lula da Silva at the 2022 election but claimed voter fraud, his supporters stormed parliament, and he allegedly planned a self-coup to keep himself in power but was unsuccessful.
India is a functioning democracy, but its democratic institutions have eroded over the past decade since Narendra Modi became prime minister.
âThrough its control of the media, monopolization of campaign finance and harassment of opponents, India seems set on a path to becoming an illiberal pseudo-democracy similar to Turkey or Russia,â Chatham House wrote last year.
âOpponents and critical journalists have been harassed, prosecuted, investigated for tax irregularities or put under surveillance, restricting critical voices.â
China is a single-party dictatorship and South Africa has a strong democratic institutions, free press, and an independent judiciary, but is plagued by corruption and political violence remains stubbornly persistent.
BRICS also includes Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, and the UAE â all of which are either dictatorships or severely flawed democracies.
Kelly countered that Trump didnât start any wars or involve the US in any new conflicts when he was president and expected the same in his second act
Despite the flawed âdictatorshipâ claims, Maher pressed on with his comparison of BRICS to Axis â and warned the US could be next.
âSomehow the world seems to be dividing between the âgood guyâ countries â the democratic countries â and these autocracies. And, if your guy gets in, weâre gonna be on the wrong side of this one,â he said.
Kelly countered that Trump didnât start any wars or involve the US in any new conflicts when he was president and expected the same in his second act.
âPutin did not invade Ukraine until Biden took over. We had the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, which projected weakness through the world,â she claimed.
âPeople understood that we were enfeebled, and that is what was provocative. Weakness is provocative.â
Trump, as president, negotiated American withdrawal from Afghanistan with the Taliban, allowing the terrorist group to retake the country, but troops were not scheduled to leave until after his term ended in 2021.
âTrump destabilized these people. They didnât know what to expect of him. Next thing you know, heâs bombing Soleimani,â Kelly continued.
âTrump did strategic strikes that had people on their heels, they didnât know what he might do to them.â
Bill Maher and Megyn Kelly invoked Adolf Hitler and other dictators as they bickered about whether Donald Trump was a threat to democracy
Maher said he was less concerned about that and more with âwhat he might do to usâ in domestic affairs if he was elected again.
Kelly shot back: âWeâve had four years of Trump. Trump did not go after his political enemies with the Department of Justice, that was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.â
President Joe Biden did not initiate any of the many legal proceedings against Trump. They were brought by state and local authorities and there is no evidence of collusion between them and the White House.
Maher made another Hitler comparison, noting that the Nazi dictator didnât bring in his most reprehensible and autocratic policies until years after he took power.
âWell, we had Hitler in the â30s and things were okay, and then we had Hitler in the â40s and they got way worse. Just because we had himâŠâ he said, before Kelly interrupted.
âHe hid his Hitlerism the first four years and is going to come out full force in the second term?â she said, in rhetorical reference to Trump.
Maher replied: âWell he tried to do things like that, he tried to do dictatorial, fascist things and he was stopped.â
Kelly then repeated her baseless claim that Biden and Kamala Harris âunleashed this Department of Justice against their political enemy Donald Trump, their number one chief rival for the presidencyâ.
Maherâs studio audience laughed at her claim, she lashed out at them: âIs it funny? âCause they did it. You wanna talk fascism, thatâs fascist.â
Once the audience settled, Maher closed the topic by saying: âI think history is not gonna be kind to your point of view.â
John Kelly (right), Donald Trumpâs longest-serving White House chief-of-staff, has down on claims that the former president was a fan of Adolf Hitler and warns he would âgovern like a dictator if allowed. Kelly and Trump are pictured together in June 2018
General John Kelly, who was Trumpâs White House chief of staff for 18 months, this week called his former boss was the âdefinition of fascistâ.
He claimed Trump once said âHitler did some good thingsâ and praised the Nazi dictator for having ârebuilt the economyâ.
Kelly also told The Atlantic on Tuesday that Trump said he wanted his staff to be more like âGerman generals in World War IIâ because they were âtotally loyalâ to Hitler.
He claimed Trump âcertainly prefers the dictator approach to governmentâ and ânever accepted the fact that he wasnât the most powerful man in the worldâ.
Reading a textbook definition of fascism aloud during an audio interview with the New York Times, he compared to to Trumpâs world view.
He described the ideology as a âfar-right authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchyâ.
Kelly said, in âmy experienceâ, he found Trump to believe those ideologies would âwork better in terms of running Americaâ.
Trump and Kelly together in October 2017 during a briefing with senior military leaders in the Cabinet Room of the White House
He also clamed Trump was annoyed by limitations on his power and desired the âability to do anything he wanted, anytime he wantedâ, which Kelly claimed was Trumpâs experience in the business world.
In a separate interview with The Atlantic, Kelly claimed Trump became more interested in the âadvantages of dictatorshipâ and having âabsolute control over the militaryâ as his Oval Office term neared its close.
âI need the kind of generals that Hitler had. People who were totally loyal to him, that follow orders,â he claimed Trump said during a private conversation in the White House.
The Trump campaign hit back at Kellyâs claims in a statement to the NYT, saying the former political advisor âhas totally beclowned himself with these debunked stories he has fabricatedâ.
It also denied the conversation Kelly recounted to The Atlantic, saying: âThis is absolutely false. President Trump never said this.â